Monday 15 February 2016

OROP- The Great Betrayal



I think it’s time now that we term OROP – One Rank, One Pension, as APAB – A Promise and Betrayal.

Betrayal seems to have become a habit with the present regime. The Prime Minister betrayed the people of India in his promise for repatriating the nation's money illegally stashed away in off shore banks and now he has betrayed our great and loyal armed forces in his promise regarding judicious implementation of One Rank One Pension.

I am a much saddened man today, and I cannot understand why our great leader, who was beloved of the masses, beloved of the defence community of India, has decided to betray them so cruelly.

I recall that after Narendra Modi’s nomination as Prime Minister on September 11, 2013, at his first election rally in Riwari in Haryana on September 15, he assured the defence forces of his support to implement One Rank One Pension. This promise was continuously repeated at several other election rallies across the country. In fact it was the repetition of this promise, and the trust that the defence community placed in Modi, that compelled the then Finance Minister Chidambaram to include the OROP in his February 2014 budget, and make a token allocation of Rs 500 crores for it. Of course, they did nothing about it.

Resting on their hopes, the ex servicemen community contributed very significantly to the BJP victory especially in North India, where most of them reside – Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Rajasthan, Delhi, and of course UP, which has the largest number of ex-servicemen in the country.

Even over the last one month, the nation has witnessed the daily mortal risk faced by members of our defence forces, and the sacrifice demanded from them for defending our country. So that we can then sit back in our comfortable chairs and pass judgement about what went wrong or right. Just in the last one month, we have seen tragic loss of life of our brave soldiers in Pathankot, in Siachin, and at the J&K Line of Actual Control, something that has become a recurring event.

And we acknowledge and reward the sacrifice of our brave and patriotic soldiers by betraying the promises that were made to them by our political leaders.

Details of the OROP had been well defined in the Koshiyari Committee Report, 2012, which had been placed before Parliament and been unanimously approved. The NDA Government confirmed this definition in Parliament in 2014. Jaitley’s Budget of June 2014, continued with its assurance of implementing the OROP. Jaitley was then both Finance and Defence Minister, and the defence community was full of hope and expectation, thinking they would more speedily get their dues through a single window clearance.

But after the Budget announcement, a period of complete inertia set in, until Parrikar was appointed Defence Minister on November 9, 2014. The new Defence Minister held consultations with representatives of the defence organizations, and there was great satisfaction when in February 2015, he came out with a Draft Government Notification that satisfied the legitimate demands of the defence services. They eagerly awaited the implementation announcement in Jaitley’s next Budget of 2015. 

But a shock was in store for them. The Budget of 2015 contained not a word about OROP or its implementation. There was disbelief and consternation among the ex-servicemen, and a sense of betrayal. And that is when the sad spectacle of the agitation by our brave and patriotic ex-servicemen started, which continues even today. Experts on statecraft, starting from Kautilya, Machiavelli to the present day state unequivocally that if a country’s army is turning on to an agitation mode, then something is dangerously wrong with the country’s body politic. 

Parrikar sent his proposal to Jaitley’s Finance Ministry in February 2015, which hibernated, with the usual excuse that modalities are being worked out. Somewhere during this time, it is reported that the Prime Minister’s Office stepped in, and in September 2015, the hapless Parrikar read out an inconsequential statement (least expected from him, with all his experience and meticulousness) with a howler about VRS – the Voluntary Retirement Scheme – which is not even applicable to the armed forces! These were totally in variance with his own proposals of February 2015, and were made reportedly at the behest of the PMO.

Then started the ex-servicemen’s agitation and hunger strike in full force. And their ultimate humiliation and insult by the Delhi Police manhandling them and physically removing them from Jantar Mantar. I wonder if the Prime Minister is aware of the extremely negative impact this has had on the morale of serving soldiers, and that all news about the on-going agitation has been ordered to be blacked out in the Media, with not even paid advertisements being accepted by mainstream newspapers. This must have been the work of someone who manages these things. It is not difficult to find out who actually handled this shut out of news which must be known to the people. 

In November 2015, the Government issued a notification regarding OROP, that was totally at variance with the definition of OROP, as approved by Parliament, or the pledge made by Modi during his election rallies.

Many injustices are evident in the notification –

1. Fixing the base year as 2013 as against 2014, (which swallows up their salary increment for one year), in violation of what had been accepted in Parliament in 2013 and 2014;

2. Averaging the pension for the rank between the maximum and minimum salary drawn in that rank, a purely subjective exercise, as against the definition accepted in Parliament that it must be determined as the same pension for the same rank for the same length of service;

3. Equalizing of pension every 5 years instead of it being done every year. This results in one rank - 5 pensions! 

I’m sure the Defence Ministry, Finance Ministry and the PMO are aware that the fighting armed soldiers retire after 15-18 years of grueling service in the most inhospitable borders of our country, as against the non fighting soldiers who serve for longer tenures in more hospitable and more comfortable working conditions.

It is these fighting armed soldiers with shorter serving tenures and their widows who will be hit hardest, and most unjustly so, if the present formula of equalizing pension every 5 years instead of each year is implemented.

4. Finally, a one man Commission to sort out the anomalies of the package, without representatives from organizations of the armed forces, is not exactly a confidence inspiring measure. Would it not have been more convincing if the Commission was more like the Pay Commission and included the armed forces representatives as well?

I don’t know whether the Prime Minister is aware that our armed forces, patriotic and disciplined as they are, are getting bitter and disillusioned. The present Finance Minister lost to Amarinder Singh in the Amritsar Constituency by 94,000 votes. I am informed that the strength of ex-servicemen in that constituency is about 55,000, and with families, the figure would be the same that Jaitley lost by. Is that the reason for his grouse against the ex-servicemen, as is speculated?

Be that as it may, can anyone explain what the grouse of the Prime Minister against the ex-servicemen is?

I am not writing this piece without disclosing that by letters reproduced under I have communicated to the Hon’ble Prime minister my deep concern about this matter but obviously he is in no mood to respond at all.


Dear Prime Minister, 


I do not enter into any correspondence with you for reasons which you know or can easily be given. But I with this in public interest and of course it involves some advice to you which you may not relish but my duty to the nation leaves me no option. 


I was shocked day before that somebody whom you know was conveying to the nation his complaint against the three Army men who are in the forefront of the OROP agitation for compelling you to carry out your promise to the Army guys and their widows.
Your post election excuse for non performance of it is plainly not sufficient if not so ridiculous that it is already exposing you to public contempt.
I know that you think that you are infallible and all knowing. It is in my humble opinion an insane illusion.

During his television talks he shamelessly boasted that he would see three guys in jail. I wonder if you know that he had earlier moved the police with the same false complaint and the police rejected it. He has now been persuaded by some whom you know that the police will change their mind.


Dear Prime Minister please listens to what sensible citizens believe. They are convinced that the police is under corrupt pressure from your government. I am warning you that in every election you will encounter precisely public reaction of which you got a clear glimpse in Bihar. 

This is an appeal from a humble citizen who was once your friend.


With utmost pain.

Sincerely Yours



Ram Jethmalani 



Mr. Prime Minister, you cannot be that naive, that you are not able to see the designs of your trusted advisers plotting against you, who have brought you ignominy in Delhi and Bihar and now have succeeded in alienating you from the armed forces, who had placed implicit trust in you. 

Take charge, eliminate your hidden enemies to whom you are giving a free hand, perform your dharma, and redeem your promise to the armed forces and ex-servicemen of our country.

You can still do it. Otherwise, you are plotting your own downfall. 



60 comments:

  1. I think filing a PIL AGAINST ALL CONCERNED is the Answer.
    Jai Hind Jai Bharat! Vande Matram

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  2. I think filing a PIL AGAINST ALL CONCERNED is the Answer.
    Jai Hind Jai Bharat! Vande Matram

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  3. MR Jethmalani has very clearly highlighted the OROP case in this write up. One read through this should open the eyes of PM Mr Modi, who must now show courage to take charge rather than leaving it to people like Jaitley.
    Mr Jethmalani's letters to PM are again the words from an honest & sincere friend, even when Mr Jethmalani writes to PM about himself as "who was once your friend".

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  4. Very aptly summed up sorry state of the country.
    Unbelievable - that which from days of Kautilya is true seems to have been forgotten by those at the helm wonder why?
    What is frightening is if things continue in this mode will we have a country for long?

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  5. Earlier the better. Don't repeat your stand that UFESM is politically motivated. AFs are politically neutral but aware of political moves to denigrade AFs systematically as compared to other AI Services. UFESM will fight for justice with all democratic options including approach to SC & Electoral means to expose those who betrayed Soldiers. We will not rest till we get justice despite Govt's effort to brow beat UFESM through various undemocratic unethical means.
    Jai Hind
    Jai Jawan,Jai Kisan.

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  6. Learned man said right but the PM is under a cloud which is sorrounded to malign him and step by step he is being rejected by Indians this is the hidden agenda. One day there will be a fight for the post of pm AJ is having more appetite.

    As far as orop is concerned this can't be construed as orop another bridging the gap and bureaucracy christened it so. I am so lucky to have an increase of rupees 442 and the neighborhood esm got an increase of 67(sixty seven), Abd the havaldar next door placed more than me and bureaucracy say I am a Jr. Commissioned officer that too formerly Viceroy commissioned officer

    Lenity

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    1. I totally agree with you Thomas,
      While the PM may have honest intentions but the OROP that has been implemented under his watch is not correct as pointed out by the very senior and honest Ram Jethmalani. If one goes deeper into it the bureaucracy want the solidarity of the defence services to break by giving slightly unfair treatment to officers and very unfair treatment to JCOs and ORs as is evident from the increase you have pointed out. The idea is to leave the OROP agitation with no or lesser leadership. That is a shame when compared to the own lot of IAS and few other govt services. You may be aware every person in the IAS whether he / she is promoted or not gets the higher pay as and when their batch mate gets promoted within two years. Obviously their pensions get affected on retirement. It means that if from your batch someone became an honorary Capt all in his batch would get the same pension. They bureaucracy calls it Non functional up gradation, what a shame rewarding incompetent among their groups and keeping all together and dividing the defence persons. Imagine the plight of so many war widows who have scraficied so much for so little.
      Regards. Lt Col Hira Sathu (NZ)

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    2. so a MMS in the making.

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  9. Mr Jethmalani has rightly brought out the facts of the case, hope Our worthy PM takes a note of it and take corrective actions before it is too late.

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  10. Ram Jethmalani is a very reputed senior advocate and stateman. He has very truely put the facts and comments. I fully support it.

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  11. - Less than 2 weeks are left for the union budget to be presented; the GOI is soon likely to implement CPC as was hinted by the FM during Its announcement and the OROP cause might be technically and legally muffled seriously by the sequence of these events; where are we headed or stalled w.r.t actionable stance on OROP. Let the constraining factors, if any, be propagated in the environment as the decision based on the majority consensus shall be better than the protracted one - Tuesday, the 16th February 2016. Jai Jawan Jai Kisan.

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  12. Mr Jethmalani you have very succinctly brought out the betrayal of Ex Servicemen by the present Govt..why PM is keeping quiet and letting his goodwill in the serving and retired fraternity of Armed Forces be harmed is just not understood...when a sovereign promise is made as has been made by two parliaments and the assurance of the PM himself on multiple occasions to the defence forces and retired community..how does the Govt in power think that they can get away...there is extreme anger among the Vetrans...that anger is likely to spill into the serving soldiers...what kind of example is the Govt setting to its armed forces that a sovereign promise means nothing to the Govt...that it is a govt not to be trusted because it specialises in U turns...
    If the shenanigans on OROP were not enough we now have to contend the extremely poor way in which the defence forces have been treated by the 7th CPC...the way things are it seems that the Defence forces are not required by our country by the powers that be...because you only wittle down a org or Dept when you feel it has outlived it's utility...if that be so then let the Govt take a suitable decesion to convert the fighting arms to CAPF's ( at least then they will be heard and will get their dues) the support arms and services be merged with NDRF...
    Airforce and Navy can be suitably down sized to Transport VIPS/ ceremonial functions...our babus will very easily and gleefully do it and retain their supermacy. After all it is they who have brought the situation to this pass where we don't have ammunition,effective rifles, guns, vehicles, clothing, bullet proof vests, boots,aircraft, ships...the list is too long...the of Defence of our country is entrusted to the Secretary Defence so let him have the last laugh also..
    God sAve our country...
    Jai hind.

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  13. Mr Jethmalani you have very succinctly brought out the betrayal of Ex Servicemen by the present Govt..why PM is keeping quiet and letting his goodwill in the serving and retired fraternity of Armed Forces be harmed is just not understood...when a sovereign promise is made as has been made by two parliaments and the assurance of the PM himself on multiple occasions to the defence forces and retired community..how does the Govt in power think that they can get away...there is extreme anger among the Vetrans...that anger is likely to spill into the serving soldiers...what kind of example is the Govt setting to its armed forces that a sovereign promise means nothing to the Govt...that it is a govt not to be trusted because it specialises in U turns...
    If the shenanigans on OROP were not enough we now have to contend the extremely poor way in which the defence forces have been treated by the 7th CPC...the way things are it seems that the Defence forces are not required by our country by the powers that be...because you only wittle down a org or Dept when you feel it has outlived it's utility...if that be so then let the Govt take a suitable decesion to convert the fighting arms to CAPF's ( at least then they will be heard and will get their dues) the support arms and services be merged with NDRF...
    Airforce and Navy can be suitably down sized to Transport VIPS/ ceremonial functions...our babus will very easily and gleefully do it and retain their supermacy. After all it is they who have brought the situation to this pass where we don't have ammunition,effective rifles, guns, vehicles, clothing, bullet proof vests, boots,aircraft, ships...the list is too long...the of Defence of our country is entrusted to the Secretary Defence so let him have the last laugh also..
    God sAve our country...
    Jai hind.

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  14. Learned man said right but the PM is under a cloud which is sorrounded to malign him and step by step he is being rejected by Indians this is the hidden agenda. One day there will be a fight for the post of pm AJ is having more appetite.

    As far as orop is concerned this can't be construed as orop another bridging the gap and bureaucracy christened it so. I am so lucky to have an increase of rupees 442 and the neighborhood esm got an increase of 67(sixty seven), Abd the havaldar next door placed more than me and bureaucracy say I am a Jr. Commissioned officer that too formerly Viceroy commissioned officer

    Lenity

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  15. It is a stab in the back, no doubt.

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  16. PM and FM have betrayed the complete Defence fraternity on OROP. This is one of the main reasons of BJP debacle in state level elections as the veterans are voting against BJP. God save Modi and BJP in the next elections.

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  18. Apne chhehre ke kise daagh nazar aate hain ....
    Waqt har shaqs ko aaina dikha deta hai

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  19. poor show by government and bureaucrats...

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  20. The bureaucracy incl finance department are responsible for the shortcomings as the savings by anamolies is a mere 4%. Govt appears to be penny wise and pound foolish

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  21. They say it is complicated. If the anomalies are removed it will be as simple as ABC..

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  22. Dear Sir,
    Is our PM so naive as to not to listen to an Upright,seasoned and highly respected legal luminary, who has no axe to grind and wants our GREAT NATION to go on the RIGHT PATH.
    Regards,
    Brig A M Sharma

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  23. He couldn't have done better than this. Shri Ramjethmalani has stated in his letter to Hon'ble PM what IS TRUTH. I remember very vividly MODI ji in his speech has said that if Vajpayee was return ed to power, OROP would have been granted.he further said quote "mil baith Kar samasya suljha letae" unquote. The exservicemen are agitating at JM for the last 245 days & MODI G has no time to talk to them. The babus are having a field day. No representation of ESM in judicial commission. So much so even the PCDA has inserted unwarranted clauses in the implementation letter. This spks volumes of the attitude of the Babus. I can't believe that our Hon'ble PM is not being informed. He is loosing such a vast constituency

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  24. He couldn't have done better than this. Shri Ramjethmalani has stated in his letter to Hon'ble PM what IS TRUTH. I remember very vividly MODI ji in his speech has said that if Vajpayee was return ed to power, OROP would have been granted.he further said quote "mil baith Kar samasya suljha letae" unquote. The exservicemen are agitating at JM for the last 245 days & MODI G has no time to talk to them. The babus are having a field day. No representation of ESM in judicial commission. So much so even the PCDA has inserted unwarranted clauses in the implementation letter. This spks volumes of the attitude of the Babus. I can't believe that our Hon'ble PM is not being informed. He is loosing such a vast constituency

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  25. Happy to see a great lawyer confirming our fear that we have been truly betrayed by this govt. He is the best man to represent us legally in SC. Earlier the better.

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  26. Happy to see a great lawyer confirming our fear that we have been truly betrayed by this govt. He is the best man to represent us legally in SC. Earlier the better.

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  27. Ram Jethmalani Sir ,
    No good words r enough fr u sir, the whole Nation knows u n ur straight forwardness apart from ur Professional competence , may i request u to pl fight for our rights legally in the SC which will b ur GREAT TRIBUTE notonly to the Defense Services but to the Nation as a whole Sir

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  28. Ram Jethmalani Sir ,
    No good words r enough fr u sir, the whole Nation knows u n ur straight forwardness apart from ur Professional competence , may i request u to pl fight for our rights legally in the SC which will b ur GREAT TRIBUTE notonly to the Defense Services but to the Nation as a whole Sir

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  29. Its really pity that IESM, RDOA & TSEWA; the three biggest Ex Servicemens Associations can not get together & file a case against Govt of India/MOD for issuing OROP Pension Tables full of ERRORS & not as per even published commitments of GOI/MOD.If all three get together & do the needful instead of IESM running its Jantar Mantar Campaign,TSEWA collecting contributions promising positive results from SC case & RDOA in TOTAL silence after its DHANPALAN case. Is GOVT/MOD involved in DIVIDE & CONFUSE/RULE policy ?

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  30. The bcrats did us in rk pay in 1986, which had a spiralling effect in 96 onwards.anomalies in CPC 2006,diluted orop,depressed in 2016 by 7cpc.on and on it goes....

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  31. The bcrats did us in rk pay in 1986, which had a spiralling effect in 96 onwards.anomalies in CPC 2006,diluted orop,depressed in 2016 by 7cpc.on and on it goes....

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  32. Thanks Mr Ram Jethmalani for your cI treat assessment.

    Sh Modi and his ministers have indulged in lies in a manner that they consider the Indian and Indian soldier who have served to defend their country, a bunch of fools.

    What a shame my countrymen when such treatment is metted out to even this class of people who cannot form even a union leave aside go on strike.

    The Govt of the day which is supposed to be custodian of their rights, is itself has been harming them and they are doing a great disservice not only to soldiers, but to the country.

    With 30 years of service in Infantry, I can confidently say that leave aside Siachen Glacier, there are thousands of other difficult areas of lesser degree where none of these politicians and babus can survive even for a day.

    The history is a great teacher for those who want to learn from mistakes of others. For fools world is wide open to make mistakes and learn. Who pays for it, the country obviously.

    To me it appears that Sh Modi has far risen far above his actual capability, understanding and reached a place where he no right to be as he has no mind of his own but is governed by ill meaning advisors who are bigger enemies of the country and that they are his enemies as well is of no consequence!

    God bless India!

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  33. Hats off to you sir Shri Ram Jethmalaniji.

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  34. respected mr jetmalani . thank you for highlighting the sad state of promise and betrayal by mr modi and co. can you have some one translate it in hindi so bulk of the population will come to know of the TRUTH regards
    dr ramanan

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  35. Yes, Ramjethmalani Ji has rightly advised PM. But unfortunately, nothing will happen because there is something about AJ or between AJ & PM that is preventing the PM to put his foot down and stand for the right. Going to the court is probably the only answer.

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  36. More than Modi I am concerned about the country where the spirit of soldiering in the future will be adversely impacted.

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  37. More than Modi I am concerned about the country where the spirit of soldiering in the future will be adversely impacted.

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  38. It's time for Mr Modi to understand OROP. Visiting soldier's family when their earning members die is not sufficient he must ensure full OROP so that soldiers family did not have to bad on road. Good life can produce brave soldiers from these families

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  39. It's time for Mr Modi to understand OROP. Visiting soldier's family when their earning members die is not sufficient he must ensure full OROP so that soldiers family did not have to bad on road. Good life can produce brave soldiers from these families

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  40. Ram Jethmalani sir that was the best, representation of the OROP case i have seen so far. The issue as well as the possible real reasons for its non implementation. There was no doubt Modi seemed to be a person with genuine intentions but seems to have lost some where.
    The OROP that has been implemented under his watch are full of loop holes as mentioned above in the article. When a senior, seasoned and honest well wisher of the nation Shri Ram Jethmalani points out will the PM and the powers that be listen??? Time will tell one way or the other. Though this may be not directly relevant to the article, but needs attention all the same. There are, many anomalies in the functioning of the Govt. However, to mention only a few, the bureaucracy for their own lot of IAS and few other govt services have a Non functional up gradation in place. In simple terms it means that every person in the IAS whether he / she is promoted or not gets the higher pay after two years, when any in their batch gets promoted. Obviously their pensions get affected on retirement. What a shame rewarding incompetent among their groups and keeping all together and dividing the defence persons. Seems like they want the solidarity of the defence services to break by giving slightly unfair treatment to officers and very unfair treatment to JCOs and ORs as is evident from the increases in pwnsion by the recently announced OROP. This move could be construed as a ploy to leave the OROP agitation with no leadership or lesser leadership. Imagine the plight of so many veterans and war widows who have sacrificed so much for so little.

    Heartfelt thanks to Shri Ram Jethmalani on his bolg.

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  41. We have been treated disgracefully

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  42. In Karan Thapar's show at http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/siachen-tragedy-is-the-government-ignoring-military-forces/1/597890.html, the larger issue has not been discussed/addressed:

    Life in the Swiss army is the least hazardous and most luxurious in the world as they have not seen a war in the last 400 years. The other extreme in the world is India where soldiers die not just by bullets alone but pulmonary edema, cold, high altitude effects, avalanches, and infectious diseases found in the North East. All other armies fall in between in terms of hazards and danger.

    In counties like the UK, France, USA and other democratic countries, where do the army personnel stand vis-a -vis their civilian counterparts regarding emoluments is the question to be studied. How have the personnel of the Indian armed forces fared since the third pay commission in comparison to their civilian counterparts needs to be addressed, and does the downward slide bode well for the security of India. The way GOI is spending money on advertisements exhorting the youth to join the army shows desperation.

    In this respect the Pakistani army personnel are way ahead of their civilian counterparts.

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  43. Thank You , Sir for your forceful representation , as always, of OROP Case. Our esteemed PM would have replied had you been Ram Jeth Ambani or Ram Jeth Adani !

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  44. Well written. Does the PM's conscience not flutter when he salutes the martyrs of Sianchin or when the Army troops are called out to lay mats on Rajpath for the Yoga exercise?

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  45. Some of the anti OROP media utterances keep stating that the pension bill will keep rising to an unsustainable level. The press insidiously does not mention that just as faujis retire every year, many also leave for the heavenly abode and stop receiving pensions. Very soon the number of deaths will be more than the annual retirees leading to a decrease in the pension bill in real terms adjusted for inflation. It is already happening.

    The maximum intake was after the 1962 war and expansion of the armed forces took place till 1972. These faujis fought three wars covered by OROP. The breach of contract in 1973 when OROP was removed short changed this patriotic group the most. This has led to a decline in officer strength and hollowing out of the institutions as fewer lot are joining, so number of officers retiring will be decreasing over time.

    Those who joined between 1963 and 1972 have all retired are in the late seventies and are fast going off the cliff. The pension bill has started declining in real terms after adjusted for inflation.

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  46. Dear Sir,
    OROP is only one in dozens of cases. After this agitation started I had been reading about the grave injustices meted out to our soldiers by Babudom and Audit authorities. Once an allowance or increase is approved and sanctioned how can a Govt babu or auditor steal a portion of it io improve his naukari as a saviour of public money.After these acts then just refuse to pay the vast majority of simple sodiers and widows who have no means to claim their entitlements?It is very strange.Does not happen with even a single unionized or associanized service !!!!. On top of it if a court orders justice it is given only to the plaintiff.If SC does not step in and find a permanent solution to this restriction on fundamental rights of soldiers without corresponding accountability and responsibility this country will be doomed soon. The SC will also have to educate the so called Supreme Commander about his command responsibilities in a suo-moto Presidential reference/ advisory.Only Senior lawyers like you or the SC bar association can help by filing a PIL in the interest of the Nation.

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  47. Dear sir, everyone knows the obvious, what stops them is also obvious. The fear is whether they understand long term consequences?? May Almighty bestow good sense to babus. We will hate our country leading to situations like our neighbors.

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  48. Dear Sir, i respect & salute your efforts and your respect for the Armed forces, but still it is very hard to believe that our countrymen and Govt. authorities really consider the armed forces personnel as a respectable and useful part of society except when all machinery fails to handle any disaster.

    Due this demoralizing attitude of our Govt. & countrymen most of the today's generation are choosing the armed forces as last option of their carrier, hence directly or indirectly Govt. & country is compromising with the external security of the nation.

    Since Armed forces personnel are disciplined and don't demand it doesn't mean that they are donkey or mule and govt. can use them the way they want. Yes of course one thing i would like to convey to our Govt. & Countrymen that "If You Throw Peanuts you will Get Monkeys only".

    I wish Govt. will consider your efforts and give a positive thought to resolve the issues related to Armed forces and veterans specially OROP.

    With Beast Wishes & Regards!
    Shyam Bihari Sharma

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  49. Kudos Mr Ram Jethmalani for taking up kudgels with the PM on behalf of the Indian veterans.....Kudgels with a PM who is either living in a stratosphere that he does not get to know the ground reality as for as OROP is concerned or the actual reigns of the country are not in his hands!!!
    Either way God save this country as the last bation of this great nation is also being attacked by the unscrupulous and self serving beurocrats n politicians running it.
    May be it is a providence that a man like you has taken interest in la' affairs Veterans/ OROP n the shoddy treatment meted out to them for the past 42 years!! Hope you are able to shake them from the proverbial Kumbakaran slumber.

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  50. Thanks Mr Ram Jethmalani for your correct assessment.

    Sh Modi and his ministers have indulged in lies in a manner that they consider the Indian and Indian soldier who have served to defend their country, a bunch of fools.

    What a shame my countrymen when such treatment is metted out to even this class of people who cannot form even a union leave aside go on strike.

    The Govt of the day which is supposed to be custodian of their rights, is itself has been harming them and they are doing a great disservice not only to soldiers, but to the country.

    With 30 years of service in Infantry, I can confidently say that leave aside Siachen Glacier, there are thousands of other difficult areas of lesser degree where none of these politicians and babus can survive even for a day.

    The history is a great teacher for those who want to learn from mistakes of others. For fools world is wide open to make mistakes and learn. Who pays for it, the country obviously.

    'All those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat the same'

    To me it appears that either Sh Modi has far risen far above his actual capability, understanding and reached a place where he no right to be as he has no mind of his own but is governed by ill meaning advisors who are bigger enemies of the country and that they are his enemies as well is of no consequence, or he is being taken for a jolly joy ride by his faithful,both ways it is in becoming of a PM country like India!

    God bless India!

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  51. Sir, I compliment you on your forthright views. You have nailed it. Thank you very much.
    Col Anil Kaul VrC
    Member GB IESM.

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  52. On behalf of all ex-servicemen of India we UFESM(JM) thank you for your unstinted support for just cause of OROP. We are sure that we will get full OROP with your advise and patronage. Thank you very much sir
    Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM gen Sec IESM

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  53. On behalf of all women and veernaris I thank you for your full support to the cause of Military and ex-servicemen. Thank you sir
    Kiran Gandhi

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  54. Thank you Sir for showing your solidarity and standing by the cause of Veterans of Defence Services. The country which shames its own defence forces and their veterans is sure to meet the fate of the countries like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan which have have now proved to be a failed state. They are not only destroying the last honest and solid saviours of our freedom i.e. the defence forces and their veterans but also degrading their respect and honour in the eyes of general public.

    Thank you once again Sir for all your help and support to our cause to my cause. May God bless you.

    Mahesh Saxena
    Veteran of Defence Services
    Ex Indian Air Force

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  55. Sir, the Nokar Sahi of this country will try their best to head down Army, which they are doing since 1947 and now they are planning, JCO's, NCO,s and OR,s to go against officer,s that is why they are putting hurdle,s not to increase the pension of JCO'S, and other ranks so that the unhealthy environment to develop in army. we have to fight till last for OROP.

    WITH BEST REGARDS

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  56. Hon'ble Member of Parliament, A nagging concern is that while attention is riveted on OROP, existing anomalies and denial of dues affecting veterans of Indian armed forces would escape attention and remain un-addressed.

    A case in point is shortfall in rank-pay to some sections of the Officer cadre whilst they were in service which, in turn, affected their pensions when they retired. http://goo.gl/JonDVZ

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  57. X group Hav of 19 years service getting equal to Y group Nb sub of 22 years service. That Hav was served under the supervision of Nb Sub in his service career. Is that group is more than the Rank?

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  58. true Mr Modi is not listening to the good advise by concerned people and being misguided by his own people I am sure still time is there for him to meet the rep of ESMs and get a clear picture of OROP I feel so sad for him to give us partial OROP and still earn a bad name He is shrewd enough to understand the real issue of OROP and do the needful at the earliest before he losses his position

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